“You can’t have kids? Here, take mine” and other hurtful things said to those with Infertility.

Over the weekend I went to visit a dear friend and her beautiful triplets. On the way out of her neighborhood, I stopped at an estate sale. I always find it interesting to see what kinds of items are being sold. Furniture, old family photographs, fashion from across the decades. As I was browsing, another customer was negotiating a sale with the woman running it. He wanted the book case, but would have to pick it up later since there wasn’t room for it in his vehicle with his kids in tow. “Unless you want to watch them?” he teased. “Hey, you can even keep them if you’d like!”

The woman replied, “No, I can’t have my own kids. I’m certainly not going to watch yours.” Internally, I shouted to her, “You go, girl! Good for you for speaking up!”

The man responded by telling her he believed children were a gift from god. It’s all according to his plan who gets them and who doesn’t. Some people have 12 kids, and some don’t get any, he explained.

I’m imagining after reading the lines above, you are having a similar reaction to the one I had, and I imagine the woman who was running the sale had. Cringing and filling with both intense anger and sadness. I was immediately filled with a desire to educate both of them about The Art of Infertility. The woman, for support, and the man so he might think about how the words he speaks could affect the people who hear them. They both received my business card and an elevator speech about the project.

After that experience, I thought it might be a good time to re-run a list of hurtful things and helpful things to say to those with infertility that we’ve compiled from ART of IF participants. We originally ran this content in December of 2015.

Which of these items have you heard the most? Is there anything you would add?

-Elizabeth

Hurtful

1 “’Oh, you are still young, you have time’. Being young and having time has nothing to do with what caused my infertility. Infertility is not a disease that only happens to women over 35, it can happen to any woman at any time.”

2. “When are you going to make your mom a grandma?”

3. “‘You can always adopt.’ This minimized that pain that I was experiencing at the  possibility of not being able to have a child that was genetically mine.”

4. “’Once you stop trying you’ll probably conceive naturally’ – by countless people who apparently can’t comprehend that when you don’t have tubes this is impossible. And, yes, I am a strong Christian woman and believe anything is possible for God – but without a delivery system, if I became pregnant it would be with the 2nd coming of Christ and I don’t really know that I could handle the responsibility.”

5. “Infertility is nature’s way of population control. ”

6. “I had a coworker say to me ‘no one else in the office is pregnant… I think you should be next!’ I had to just try to laugh it off and made some sort of reply like ‘yeah, yeah, maybe soon!’ When she made a comment after that about maybe I’m ‘just a dog person,’ that is when I felt like telling her about our struggles, and although I am a ‘dog person,’ I also hope to be a mother someday as well.”

Inconceivable by Aine Quimby. Oil on canvas. Part of the ART of IF collection.

Inconceivable by Aine Quimby. Oil on canvas. Part of the ART of IF collection.

7. “‘Who has the problem with not getting pregnant, is it you or your husband?'”

8. “Variations of, ‘I don’t know what I’ve do without my kids’, ‘My life wasn’t complete until I had kids’, ‘Being a parent is all that matters’, ‘Being a parent is the most important job in the world’, ‘You don’t know love until you have a child of your own'”

9. “We got them all!   ‘You’re doing it wrong.’,  ‘Maybe you weren’t meant to be parents’,  but my personal favorite was from an old man who told my husband ‘Let it soak.’  – Still to this day have no clue exactly what he meant but we laugh about it.”

10. “We are Christians and regular attending members of a Seventh-Day Adventist Church. We had people say to me/us ‘well if it is in God’s plan you will become parents.’ The people who said this were parents. My thoughts were: so God thinks you will be a better parent then me? – I doubt it. So for all the people who abuse their children and have them removed from the home, and traumatized by their parents are apart of God’s plan, but me not being a parent is? – I doubt it!”

11. “‘You can borrow my kid(s) if you want.’ or ‘Do you want some of my kids? You can have them!’”

12. “Sometimes it’s what people don’t say that hurts the most. My friends have had more babies than I can count in the last 4+ years. Every time I go to the baby department and buy them gifts. It rips me up and takes everything I have to hold in the sobbing until I get to the car. I think people take it for granted. Not once has anyone ever said, ‘Wow, that must have been really difficult for you. Thank you for loving us so much that you would subject yourself to that hurt.'”

“Don’t say, ‘My life wasn’t complete until I had kids’, ‘Being a parent is all that matters’, ‘Being a parent is the most important job in the world’, ‘You don’t know love until you have a child of your own'”

13. “‘Everything happens for a reason. It will happen when it is meant to happen.'”

14. “A lot of people always refer to the most common phrase during the infertility journey, which is to ‘just relax and it will happen.’ As much as I wish ‘relaxing’ would cure that, it doesn’t.”

15. “‘I know it will happen. You just have to give it time.’ No one can know that the treatment will work and I felt like it minimized my pain.”

16. “’My friend was going through the same thing, and when she just stopped worrying about it, she got pregnant.’”

17. “The worst thing people have said is implying that my energy created the infertility like through fear, emotional stress, emotional barriers, etc., and to simply get over it because we could adopt or do IVF or surrogacy without knowing the financial and emotional costs of our options.  They completely negate the emotional aspect of infertility and how it rocks your world as you know it.”

Grief in Black and White by Sarah Gough. Photography. Part of the ART of IF permanent collection.

Grief in Black and White by Sarah Gough. Photography. Part of the ART of IF permanent collection.

18. “I was told I was being dramatic. ”

19. “I cannot remember the comment exactly, but it was something along the lines that I should try to have a baby ‘at any cost.’ As if it wasn’t okay to be concerned about protecting my marriage, our finances, the health of my body, etc. I also recall someone saying, ‘I know you don’t want to talk about it, so I won’t ask you.’ That wasn’t true for me. It’s true for many women, but I did want to talk about it.”

20. “‘Maybe your husband is cheating on you and giving all of his good sperm to someone else.'”

21. “This isn’t a terrible thing to say by any means, but a very common question is: ‘Do you have kids?’ It’s a little uncomfortable. It’s a quick response, no we don’t. But so much comes behind saying those few words. People don’t know – is it because you didn’t want them? Because you tried and couldn’t? What is behind that statement? People don’t usually follow up and ask why not (not that they necessarily should). We’re still trying to figure out the best way to answer that question without the uncomfortable silence that follows.”

22. “‘Flip her over. It’s a whole new ball game.'”

23. “Complaining about how hard your pregnancy is. You get a baby in the end! It does not make me ‘feel better’ about never getting to experience pregnancy. I’ve been through far worse pain and misery, and I never received a miracle in exchange.”

24. “I think that some of the worst things actually came from my mom.  With the initial troubles, she’d repetatively tell me that she didn’t understand why I couldn’t get pregnant because my dad just had to look at her funny.  Gee, thanks mom for that image.”

25. “‘Drink a ton & enjoy some recreational drugs’ because that’s what worked for them.”

Helpful

1. “When I was going through my miscarriage my husband’s grandmother called me, and told me her story about her loss. We sat on the phone and cried together. She knew no words could help but she just wanted to be there. To share a story she didn’t share a whole lot made me feel supported.”

2. “Understand I’m doing the best I can with a total shit situation.”

3. “Be open to discussion and listening. Most days all I wanted or really needed was someone to listen and really HEAR me. I needed someone to say it was okay to be upset, it was okay to cry, I was grieving a major loss.”

4. “I found that telling people what I needed from them helped. Many times they were clueless as to how to help me. Just knowing I had someone there willing to hear me out whenever I need was amazing.”

5. “Say ‘I’m sorry you’re going through this.’”

6. “Ask me about it and about my losses…. Sometimes I would feel like my babies only mattered to me. It wasn’t until my sister wrote me a letter and told me that she felt their loss too that I truly felt like someone else cared about it. And that meant so much more than she probably ever will realize.”

7. “The best way my family and friends have supported me is to educate themselves so that they can at least understand the medical aspect of what is happening to me.”

8. “Be there when I need to talk or cry and on the opposite end of that, allow me the time I need to myself, to understand that I may not always be up to hanging out with them while they were pregnant… or with them and their children.”

9. “Our parents would stop asking us questions about doctor appointments and wait until we told them info. They didn’t want to bombard us with questions and they were respectful of our choices.”

10. “Just doing things to keep my mind off of what I was going through. Inviting me out to do things I enjoy, like getting spa treatments, going to sing karaoke, going to wine tastings, etc. Many people asked if they could pray for me and I really liked that.”

11. “My family: mom, sister and aunt all gave me the progesterone shots through both of my IVF cycles.”

Failed IVF #1 (September 10, 2015 - October 9, 2015) by Sara Nelson. Mixed media. Part of the ART of IF permanent collection.

Failed IVF #1 (September 10, 2015 – October 9, 2015) by Sara Nelson. Mixed media. Part of the ART of IF permanent collection.

12. “One of the most memorable ways people helped support us was fundraising for IVF. We set up one of those health donation websites and had a garage sale. Family members and friends had bake sales, everyone donated items for the garage sale, and even coworkers from family members helped out. It was really really humbling and brought us to tears once to see all the support we were getting.”

13. “The people who have shared their experiences of infertility with me have been extremely supportive.”

14. “Honoring my request that if I wanted to talk about it I would and not ask questions otherwise. When I needed someone to talk to and they really listened vs. trying to make me feel better or talking about their own fertility struggle.”

15. “Financial help was hugely important to me. I wouldn’t have opportunity to seek alternative therapy, like acupuncture, without help from my parents. To me, there are already so many costs of fertility treatments, and I was unwilling to try acupuncture because it was just another cost.”

16. “The best ways that our friends and family have supported us is just by listening and encouraging us. They are positive, but they are realistic in having the same expectations as us, which is hey, it might happen, it might not happen, but you have to give it a try.”

17. “They never tell us we should or could have done things differently, and instead point out to us that we are just one step closer to having a baby. You guys found out what doesn’t work; now you get to move onto the next thing.”

18. “Letting me cry. Taking me out to dinner. Letting me avoid baby showers and kids’ birthday parties with understanding and not exasperation or frustration. Giving me space to vent and grieve.”

19. “I have discovered some very special friends through this process.  They have best supported me by being present and listening, not judging or offering suggestions/opinions. They ask me what me what I need and strictly follow any guidelines that I set out. For example: I hate it when people offer solutions so I’ve asked my friends to never offer solutions.  The ones who listen warm my heart.”

Participants at the ART of IF Women Write the Body Workshop in East Lansing, MI.

Participants at the ART of IF Women Write the Body Workshop in East Lansing, MI.

20. “Help me to feel I’m still me even though I might feel a piece of me is broken.”

21. “When I would talk about the idea that there are many ways to be fertile, that bearing offspring is one way, but not the only way, and that fertility encompasses so much more – there were people who ‘got’ what I meant and people who didn’t. Those who ‘got it’ were excited for me and excited to see what other endeavors I might pursue in life. That made me feel supported.”

22. “Many friends have tried to support me just by asking what we need. Usually I tell them I just want to be allowed to hurt. The best friends I have are willing to let me hurt, are willing to sit through awkward silences and haven’t been hurt or offended when I’ve politely declined to attend their baby showers or their children’s birthdays (there are some, believe it or not, who take it personally and have made me feel bad about it).”

“Letting me cry. Taking me out to dinner. Letting me avoid baby showers and kids’ birthday parties with understanding and not exasperation or frustration. Giving me space to vent and grieve.”

23. “Please spare me any conversations about pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding. These situations make me incredibly uncomfortable and I’ll just find a chance to try and run away. It’s painful to hear these conversations, they tear at your heart. And if I know that you are aware of my situation & you bring up these topics in front of me, I feel even more hurt & isolated.”

24. “Do not complain to me how exhausting and hard it is raising your children. Nothing in life is easy that’s worth something. Think about how that sounds to someone who has been to hell & back trying to have children.”

25. “Really, I just wish people could think twice before they speak. Try for a minute to put yourself in our shoes. Be compassionate. If you have a friend or family member that can’t have children, don’t ignore them. Do tell them you are thinking of them. Do tell them you understand they’re going through a hard time. Do tell them you’re praying for them if that’s what you do. Just try to understand and be more sensitive.”

15 thoughts on ““You can’t have kids? Here, take mine” and other hurtful things said to those with Infertility.

  1. When I was 15 I went to the OBGYN for the first time because of severe abdominal pain. They did an ultrasound and my doctor, a woman in her mid 40s with a few kids of her own told me ( not an exact quote, but I remember basically what she said) “Wow, I can’t even find your ovaries, wait, there is one. WOW they are tiny, smaller than a peanut.” Which freaked me out, she then followed up by sitting me down and telling me “It will be very difficult for you to ever have children, most likely impossible without treatments, and even with treatments it might still be very difficult or impossible”

    Hearing this so straight and without any real explanation at 15, affected me more than I realized, telling other friends and family that I probably wouldn’t ever had kids got me more comments like “well no one will want to marry you” or “What about when you are older and want kids?”

    2 years ago, I was suffering from anemia ( at age 33) and the hospital sent me to an OBGYN (in Japan where I live) I told the doctor about what I had been told all those years ago. The exam revealed the past 20 years hadn’t changed a thing. There I was once again being told ( this time in Japanese) the exact same thing.

    I’ve had many years to adjust to the idea that I probably could never have my own kids, but I know many people haven’t had that time. I decided at 15 that I wanted to adopt children one day and I have lived with that dream ever since, but I know for many people the idea they could never raise a child they bore it devastating.

    I too believe that God has a plan for every person and for every child, but no woman or couple without children should ever be treated like they are being punished. People need to see that infertility is neither a crime nor a punishment

    Thank you so much for this project, God bless.

    • Thank you so much for sharing your story! I’m sorry that your gynecologist was so blunt, especially when you were just 15. Even though you’ve had time to adjust and wrap your head around your diagnosis,it’s still something that’s very difficult to hear and I’m sorry that your gynecologist in Japan had the same report. Best wishes to you as you build your family through adoption.

    • This is a great article! People just don’t realize how much we go through. Having to grieve so often is really awful and no one seems to truly understand. This should help my friends with our conversations hopefully.

  2. Great piece. I too have been there. Failed IVF and abdomonal adhesions and infertility. No medical staffer at the hospital in which my ectopic pregnancy burst got it. I lost a child and they put me in a room with a new mother. The definition of insensitivity. I feel your pain. Sending California waves of love

    • Oh, wow. That’s completely insensitive! We’re so sorry that you lost your baby and that the medical staff was clueless and added to your pain. Big hugs!

  3. Thank you sooo much for writing this. I have several friends at the moment ago are struggling, one in particular has been going on for 2 years and I never knew what to say and what not to say. Our friendship is important to me and I’m grateful that now I can work to avoid the hurtful and instead try to be helpful. Thanks!!

    • We’re so glad you found it helpful! It also wouldn’t hurt to ask your friend what you can do to help support her since different people have different triggers. Thanks for being mindful of what your friend is going through. It sounds like you are a great friend!

  4. I needed to read this. While my husband and I haven’t been trying/struggling for that long ( 1 year), it feels like an eternity. Something else that I have struggled with people saying (not directly to me, but in a general conversation) is, “I guess we must be really fertile! We got pregnant the first try”. It just makes me feel so worthless. Now even fertility treatments aren’t working. But this post summed up everything I have felt over the last year. Thank you so much.

    • Courtney, we’re so glad you found this post helpful. I often say that the early years of an infertility diagnosis are the hardest because you’re not likely to have as many tools for coping and haven’t yet built a large community of support. I really recommend finding a support group in your area. Your local clinic may have one. You can also search for one in your area at http://www.resolve.org/support/support-groups.html.

  5. Infertility is hard for anyone to deal with. Male infertility is rarely talked about and it is also heartbreaking and difficult to deal with. I have 5 children from a previous marriage. My new husband wants a child, but we discovered 2 years ago he is essentially infertile. He has Retrograde Ejaculation, we can not remember the last time he ejaculated properly. It usually backwashes into his bladder.

    We have been trying for 4 years and zip, nada, zilch. We are not sure what to do, do we save up and possibly have 6 goes at IUI with donor sperm, or do we save up and have 1 try with ICSI? We just don’t know yet.

    I need to lose weight (from 15stone 11lb to 12stone. I have 2.7stone to go and I started on June 15th, I am making good progress) and sort some other stuff out first. In the mean time it still hurts when friends have babies, or we see cool baby stuff or see the stuff we bought already hanging in the wardrobe and I see the pain in my husbands eyes when he gets to thinking about it, and how it may never happen, and people tell me I should be grateful I already have children, and it’s not as bad for me as others who don’t even have one. I know. I already know. I am grateful, but it still hurts.

    • We’re so sorry to hear about all you are dealing with and agree that male infertility is even less talked about. We were very fortunate to team up with Dr. Paul Turek at The Turek Clinic, Reproductive Science Center of the Bay Area, and Men’s Health Network, to raise awareness about Male Factor Infertility (MFI) for Men’s Health Month in June. Dr. Turek has a lot of great info about MFI on his website that you may want to check out at theturekclinic.com.

      It can be so hard to make decisions about what treatments to try or paths to take, especially when there are barriers, financial or otherwise, to treatment and we wish you the best as you figure out what is best for you and your family.

      Of course it still hurts! Whether you don’t have any children, or you have many and still want to add to your family, infertility takes that choice away from you.

  6. I think there is a lot of valuable information in here, especially for those of us who’ve never really experienced infertility. However, I wanted to mention one thing. Many, many women go thru hard & often devastating things. And infertility is not the only thing. To say things like, “don’t complain about your pregnancy” and “don’t complain about your kids” is pretty hurtful too. I had a *really* challenging pregnancy. I had hyperemesis gravidarum. I was so ill, it was literally debilitating. I had to be on class B & C drugs almost my entire pregnancy. My OB told me he only sees cases like mine every other year, it’s so rare. And that I had a high risk pregnancy. And this was my first. I spent every day not only nauseated or violently vomiting, but terrified that something horrible would happen to my baby. I couldn’t work, which sucks because I own my own business and it is getting to the point of completely failing because of how much time I had to take off.

    I think we could all do a little more to be sensitive to the hardships others are going thru, but it’s unfair to invalidate another person’s pain because you feel their pain is less than yours. Sometimes pregnancy is really hard. Sometimes post partum depression consumes you. Sometimes you feel utterly overwhelmed by your children. Perhaps complaining to someone experiencing infertility is not the best, but many who do go thru infertility are very private about it. I know of very few friends who’ve publicIy or personally let me know because it’s a very personal thing. Really, we should be kind to everyone ❤️

    • Elyse, I’m so very sorry to hear you had hyperemesis gravidarum during your pregnancy. You’re right that we should all really be more kind to each other in general. I think it’s really about knowing your audience. If I knew someone just lost their spouse, it would be insensitive to complain about mine to them. If I knew you had hyperemesis gravidarum and told you all you had to do to feel better was eat saltine crackers and drink ginger ale, that would be hurtful to you. Like those examples, this list was intended to raise awareness of things that could be hurtful to someone experiencing infertility. You’re right that sometimes pregnancy is hard, that post partum depression can be all consuming, and that parenting can be overwhelming. This post was intended to raise awareness to the idea of venting about those challenges to someone who cannot achieve or maintain a pregnancy, is hurtful to them and it would be better to share those concerns with someone other than a person who isn’t struggling with an infertility diagnosis. You’re right that many are not open about their infertility and that it might be hard to avoid saying hurtful things to them if you didn’t know they were struggling. Hopefully, as we all work together to raise awareness, that will change. Thank you for your comment.

      • Yes, I completely agree! I think raising awareness in general is especially helpful as it encourages people to share their hardships. Even though doing so is personal and hard, it can also be a relief in many ways & I think also community creating. When you see someone going thru the same hell you are, it makes you feel a little less alone. And yes, it’s absolutely essential to know who you’re talking to, especially about certain topics that would be sensitive to them. ❤️

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